Monday, 06 July 2009
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Girls just can't do it the same
You’ve seen it all before – the girl with the ticking biological clock, the girl dreaming of the fairy tale wedding and waiting for her prince to come, the girl who is instantaneously attached after sex, and on and on.
You remember that scene in Wedding Crashers at the wedding where Isla Fisher goes crazy and won’t let go of Vince Vaughan? He has that look of panic in his eye and says, “uh oh. Stage 5 clinger!!”
That’s the girl I’m talking about – the one with the crazy eye. The girl who’s so desperate for the guy to call, so eager to be in love, so reeking of desperation that it hurts to witness even as an innocent bystander.
But what about the dudes who are carbon copies of the crazy ladies?
Too often than not, girls are the ones pigeonholed as scary and clingy. Maybe it’s better for story-telling? But there are dudes that are equally (if not more) as smothering. It just sucks that those stories don’t see the light of day!
Yes, I’m aware that we live in a double standard world and girls can’t get away with the same things guys can. If I texted/called a guy every day while he was on vacation, asking him how it was and when he’d be back, I’d be labeled a psychopath (and arguably so). Yet if a dude does that to me, what do people around me say?
You like douchebags, em. When you finally find a nice guy, you can’t appreciate it and you’re too into the game of chase.
Obviously, I beg to differ. I love nice guys. I can write many, many blogs about how great nice guys are and how shameful it is that they often don’t stay that way. There’s usually a girl that comes along and either breaks them or uses them or wrongs them. And then they learn and morph into douchebags. So sad!
So to my defense, I love nice people. But there’s a humongous world of difference between NICE and CLINGY. There’s a soft, romantic side of me that’s still alive, yet dormant. I hope to always believe in love, but I’m also aware that it takes more than three dates to know someone. I don’t believe in any of that “you complete me” BS via Jerry Maguire. I don’t want someone who’s looking for puzzles to stick into their otherwise incomplete life. I don’t want someone who can’t hold their own, who has to call me at every hour of the day to check up on where I’m at and see how I’m doing. It’s flattering to be the object of someone’s affection, but only when they genuinely know you for you and not because they just want a girl to shower attention upon.
What’s more puzzling is that if there’s anything that I am, it’s being a straight shooter. Subtlety is NOT my strong point! So if I’m avoiding you, it’s blatantly clear. If someone of the male gender is a Stage 5 clinger and cannot get the obvious point, it makes me wonder a couple things. The first being that, this method of getting girls has worked in the past! Especially if the guy is not young or inexperienced. I mean, if you’re 20 years old, I’ll just chalk it up to a learning experience. God knows the retarded things I used to say/do at that age. So obviously, there was positive reinforcement that has the man thinking it’s effective to smother a stranger with endless affection.
This leads me back to my original wonderment: do clingy girls get the bad rap because we simply never hear about clingy guys? If a guy is instantly clingy, he's considered "sweet" and warmly embraced by clingy girls. So it's almost as if clingy guys are like part of an underground society that we just don't hear about because there's plenty of desperate girls to go around!
More often than not, a genuinely “nice guy” is hard to find, especially one who is dateable, normal, and has not yet morphed into a douchebag. I also hope they find “nice girls” who love to eat un-earned attention up with a spoon, the need to wear the pants, and enjoy grand acts of romantic gestures.
I enjoy the latter too, but only when it’s reserved for somebody who feels the same way and not just some joe blow. When you’ve only known me for less than a month, you should pretty much chalk me up to a girl joe blow.
Then again, what the heck do I know? Am I even making sense? I've been single for more years than I can count on a hand. From the sounds of this entry, I'm probably the crazy one out here alone!
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Comments (26)
first!
yess!!!
i'll comment subsequently. =)
now, she was crazy in that movie lol.
ore the only sane one.
good post =), i don't think you're crazy at all. clinginess, in any capacity is a turn off. But what I've started to think is that the whole perception of clinginess isn't properly distinguished. There are two scenarios that I've noticed:
A.)
From a guy's perspective, a guy will date someone he perceives (very important) is really really hot. Said guy knows she is something of a rare commodity so it doesn't really matter whether he is a "nice guy" or a "douche", he has to make sure that he guards his territory. After all, everyone - whether they are married or single are fair game. Marriage is a state of mind and therefore the bond can be broken when one person begins to see a new "paradigm". So this first scenario, I can't blame the guy, or girl. The way I see it, it's just our primal and arguably machiavellian way of maintaining our "property". To be perfectly honest, I respect women that are willing to do this because it shows me that they have the guts to make order and stability in their lives. If it is an institution we crave out of our partnerships, then we can't "bump and feel" our way to creating that foundation. All agreements and bonds have to be strengthened in a resolute, habitual, and consistent manner. So there's that misconception of clinginess that I see.
B.)
Then there are just people who cling to you no matter what; like they just have to be around you everywhere you go; like an extra appendage. Whatever you do, you have to do it as if you are two people inhabiting one body. Then it starts to feel like that "one body" is bi-polar because if your side does or says something that the other side doesn't like; then there's a problem. There's no way you can get away from them and most importantly; if your social situation just becomes weird with their presence, either if they're there or they are on the phone with you, then that's the crazy clinginess that I don't like. Sure, one can argue that both A and B can be indistinguishable but there is a real difference and I think that it lies in the inherent nature of the person that you're with. You'll know the type; I think girls especially know when they're dealing with someone...hmmm..deeply unsavory. This is the other clinginess; I rarely see this but when i do, it's pretty ugly.
again, good post =)
Definitely a good post. Hope you're doing well. Just here to say hi. :) Did you go see Transformers - Revenge of the Fallen yet? How was your fourth of July weekend? No, you aren't the crazy one out there alone.
I think it's time to stop thinking and start acting.
Don't worry, I'm sure that you reasons for singledom are good ones: if a proper guy doesn't come by, there's no reason to be in a relationship. Yea, I've seen some of the clingy guys. Though, it's generally not as bad for guys because guys are supposed to do the chasing anyway, thus it's just a "really extreme" version of the chasing. Girls aren't supposed to do anything except turn down guys... so if they chase/cling, it's a bit odd.
Speaking of being broken.. I think pretty much everyone is broken at some level or another.. it's just a matter of finding someone who is least damaged... depressing isn't it?
for quite some time i haven't heard of any girl being pigeonholed as scary and clingy... usually guys
I think you're cracking. You're lamenting far too much lately. Just go on Eharmony and film a commercial three months from now where you're frolicking on fallen Autumn leaves with some Canadian man that's clingy, but not really.
It's just simple math. More girls can put up with clingy guys than guys can put up with clingy girls.
ive been told that im nice on occasion...
Yes, we all live in a world of double-standards. Do they all hold true, not necessarily.
i met this guy. he said all the right things. had sex that first night. i know. slut. lol. that was the only time that ive ever done that. anyways. the next night i realized all those perfect things he was saying were just lines that he uses. he didn't even have any new perfect things to say. it was just kinda a copy of the night before. so i took off. he called and was all talking dirty trying to get me to come back. and me and my two friends were laughing listening to him. freak. he kept on trying to get ahold of me the next few days like freaking out. he said i was horrible and acting like a guy. and how could i have sex with him and then just blow him off..lol. poor dude.
Oh boy. I know exactly what you're talking about with the clingy guys who turn into douchebags. Regardless of sex, this type of person is frustrating. I know people of both like that >:|
Well said
Your problem is that you're not in sciences. From my experiences in Chemistry and Engineering I can tell you that science faculties are populated almost exclusively by guys who I think are cool and nice, but every time I see them interact with the opposite sex, it makes me want to cringe.
Besides, it's a double standard regardless of gender. Someone who is clingy is suddenly transformed into an angel if you're interested, and is automatically written off as a stalker if you're not.
such a waste of woman that u have been single for so long. i hate to c such waste. wana go out? ;)
is it just me or does ur socal 2009 album have no content?
Definitely agree with people who say you're not the crazy one. And I'm inclined to agree with @MOSSey3535 there.
what? you "crazy"? rofl.
trying to steal my thunder, now?Ever since that movie... I have entered the term "stage 5 clinger" to my vocab... i use it a lot with friends!
I love the delete button too much and used it quite a bit today heh. Seems like you're having a great time down there. stay safe :)
when it's a girl, she's a crazy psychopath or clingy or whatever.
when it's a guy... (nice or douchebag) it's STALKER!
you're not crazy. i had the big fight with my mom the other day about the "being single for more years than i can count on one hand" and i summed it up to her like this: i would rather die alone than have to spend 30-50 years of my life with someone i just tolerate. i do not want to get married for the sake of getting married or just because 'it's time.' i'm not living my life by your checklist just so you can tell people that you're a 'successful' parent. that was in response to her "it's more important that you're not alone when you're old than just being happy with your life now. people think i'm a bad parent because you're still not married."
@MOSSey3535 - dude... i'm a Chemical Engineer. a lot of the guys in ChemEng (aka FemEng) are gay. those are the ones that girls love to hang out with, cuz they're so funny and they have great style. some of the ones that aren't gay are nice, but to say that the "science faculties are populated almost exclusively by guys who...are cool and nice" would be a GROSS over-exaggeration (good thing you put in the "i think" qualifier to make it subjective). most of them are not cool. and there's just as many doucebags in the scienes as there are outside. Engineering is not devoid of nice and/or cool guys, but it certainly isn't "populated almost exclusively" by them.
i think in general girls are more clingy to guys and guys like to talk about it and exaggerate it more so than girls....i've known MANY guys who check up on their girls and whatnot but the girls don't spread the words that much b/c they think it's sweet and whatnot until time carries on too long and they start to get sick of it all....of course this is just my point of view. There are nice guys and nice girls out there who still check up on their mates...
@aznsam999 - start acting on what?